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I hate when you're sitting quietly in class and someone puts in some rap cd...what is it with these people?! so what do i do? i go to the phlux site and play rock music to get me please
posted by Jess Chahanovich on Oct 22, 2002 09:28AM

That reminds me of a thing in my guitar book. It showed a bunch of people sitting around talking. "I only dig blues, man." "Screw that, rock is where it's at." "Country is the true music of the people." "Don't you cats know it's all about jazz?"

What do these people all have in common?

Narrow mindedness.

I don't like all rap, but there's some good rap. I don't like all country, but there's some good country. I don't like all rock, but there's some good rock. If you don't like what you're hearing, at least don't paint it all with the same brush of "oh, it's just rap, so it's gotta be junk."

posted by Zach Beane on Oct 22, 2002 10:13AM

Gimme a break. Just 'cause you don't like something, it doesn't mean you're narrow minded. It merely means that you know what you like and don't like. If you don't like eggs, you don't like eggs - and it jes don't matter if they be scrambled or fried, served with a burger or mexican style. People don't have to like everything under the sun to be open minded, and the act of making a decision doesn't make you any less open-minded. I think that may be one of the grandest misconceptions in existence in modern American society. You don't have to try to like something that you don't like just for the sake of open-mindedness. If somethink irks the shit out of you, then it irks the shit out of you, you shouldn't have to try to pretend that it doesn't just to make everyone think you're open minded. There's an old cowboy saying that goes something like, "If someone agrees with all yer palaver, they're either a fool, or trying to skin ya."
By the way, what does it mean when you label someone narrow minded simply because they happen to say they don't like a style of music that you happen to like? Personally, I think that there are so many styles of music out there BECAUSE some people like one style above all others, and maybe even hate some of the others. If a musician dislikes a kind of music, the musician doesn't play it, instead he plays the style he likes best, and if it's something new, then, by god, he's created a new style, thanks in part to the decision he's made about what he likes. So perhaps that guitar book's message is this: Forget what anyone else thinks, know what you love to play and play the shit out of it.
posted by Clint Phipps on Oct 22, 2002 02:46PM

There's a problem with arguing about musical tastes and genres. People usually can't agree on what a genre consists of. The example of eggs is an interesting one, but it's pretty easy to narrow down what is an egg and what isn't an egg. It's harder to narrow down what "rock" is, or what "rap" is, or what "country" is. If someone doesn't like "rock", does that mean they don't like music with a guitar, a bass, and drums, with a backbeat? Is it because all the lyrics are about sex and drugs and partying? Is it because rock is always self absorbed and depressing? Is it because it inspires teens to sinful dancing? Rock can cover all of those bases, but if someone told you "I hate rock, it's all shit." that would be a vague and dull thing to say. Why not explain yourself? What about rock pisses you off? If you base your opinion on a narrow range of exposure and use it to make your decisions about a hugely varied genre of music, that's narrow minded. Granted, some people are really going to dislike the fundamental parts of "rock" or "rap" or any genre, and therefore hate it all, but it's pretty common for people to misunderstand or completely disagree about what those fundamentals are, and hate the whole as a result of some of the parts.
posted by Zach Beane on Oct 22, 2002 03:07PM

Holy, all I was trying to say that the rap cd that Teddy put into the computer WAS crap. I couldn't take hearing it, so my first choice was to play some rock music off the Phlux site (which Teddy gives me shit for later on in the day). I didn't mean that all rap sucks. Sorry...
posted by Jess Chahanovich on Oct 22, 2002 04:35PM

Hey, I'm sorry too. I'm a little oversensitive when people dis rap. I'm tired of listening to people who have only heard one song that they don't like and then make the lame joke "Rap? More like CRAP if you ask me!" Rap is more than just jiggy bling bling bitches sipping kristal and smoking endo.
posted by Zach Beane on Oct 22, 2002 04:38PM

No problem. Teddy and I are the only kids in computer we get away with anything. And plus, the cd sucked, rap or not, because it belonged to the boys soccer team who I have an intensed hatred for...getting stuff thrown at you at subway is no fun and neither is getting harrassed because you like to be punk or emo or hardcore and they want to be just losers...
posted by Jess Chahanovich on Oct 22, 2002 04:42PM

I love rap. I like country. I like headbanger music. And dammit, I love bluegrass. What is my problem????
posted by Ever Curious on Oct 23, 2002 08:37PM

I love burgers, fries, and ice cream, but I hate rutabegas and brussels sprouts. Sue me.
posted by Cody Phipps on Oct 23, 2002 10:15PM

For me, a reasonable distinction that can be drawn between music types: I prefer live music to recorded music. Any time, any genre, any band.
posted by Piper -- on Oct 28, 2002 10:13AM

Amen to that.
posted by Cody Phipps on Oct 28, 2002 07:34PM

Deffinately two thumbs up from me on that comment!
posted by StU aRt on Oct 29, 2002 04:09PM

PIPER hits another one out of the ball park. Right on! I have been told that i have i have a wide variety of CDs in my collection. I have also been told that i have a very narrow range of music in my collection. I tend to agree with the later statement. The majority of my CD's are live though and i think that is what turns me on the most. The idea that every live show is different! Peace
posted by Nick Heintz on Nov 05, 2002 12:42AM

when some1 puts in a rap cd in class, bring your sterio the next day and BLARE OZZY BABY!!! i BET you they get pissed. i did that once. next thing i knew i was in the dean's office...
posted by Cean Lakranski on Jun 01, 2003 11:06AM